Episode #7 Feminine Wealth TV: Creating Savvy Girls with Marina Passalaris

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Hello everyone! Welcome back for Episode #7 – today I am thrilled to be interviewing Marina Passalaris of Beautiful Minds about a topic that is so important and dear to my heart, creating savvy girls.

Marina runs a course for girls starting at age 11 which guides them through finding happiness and living as their true selves. She recently added a component about money and finance – this is so important to teach our teens! We discuss teen girls and money, where are they getting their ideas and attitudes from?

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Barbara Turley: Hi there, I’m Barbara Turley and you’re watching another episode of Feminine Wealth TV, the show that uncovers the diamond tips on creating truly conscious wealth from change makers, world shakers, and wealth creators. I’m joined on the show today by a very inspiring woman, Marina Passalaris, who is the founder of Beautiful Minds Australia and author of the book by the same name, Beautiful Minds. She’s also a speaker and an awesome change maker.

We’re here today to take a deep dive inside the minds of our teenage girls to see how do they feel about money, business, and wealth. Marina, welcome to the show.

Marina Passalaris: Hi, Barbara thank you. It’s really great to be a part of it.

Barbara Turley: Great, as always I love to start the show with a little story about how I met my guest and why I choose them for the show. Marina and I, you’ll remember this story.

Marina Passalaris: Very clearly.

Barbara Turley: Marina and I met, it was a couple of years ago and I was actually working on another business with another friend of mine. She had said to me, “I’ve met this amazing girl and she’s written this fabulous book and I really think we should interview her, maybe bring her into this business a little bit.” She wanted me to meet Marina, I think it was a Sunday, it was really wet.

Marina Passalaris: Freezing, freezing cold.

Barbara Turley: Spilling rain and we live in Sydney, Australia so it really shouldn’t be like that. I rocket to this café and I meet this girl and she is honestly open faced, the most authentic woman I think I’ve ever met and just the most inspiring message and I just loved what you were about. I just thought it would be a great thing to have on the show.

Marina Passalaris: Thank you.

Barbara Turley: Yes. To kick things off, tell us a bit about Beautiful Minds and the whole concept and the work that you do.

Marina Passalaris: I started Beautiful Minds 8 years ago and it was originally started in Queensland where it was based at the time. For me, my journey up to then had been working modeling agencies and although I loved it, I had spent 14 years in this incredibly incredibly superficial glamorous world.

Barbara Turley: Yes, of course, yeah.

Marina Passalaris: The biggest problem that I had with it was that my role was to actually educate the models and to get them up to speed for all the castings with all the clients but we weren’t teaching them anything about who they were as an individual.

Barbara Turley: Yes, of course.

Marina Passalaris: I had all these young beautiful models coming to me with a number of different issues, whether it was their self esteem, their body issues, they were taking drugs, eating disorders, all that sort of stuff. For me, I just needed to get out of this environment that I was starting to really class as quiet toxic and to start something that I felt I could give all the years of education that I had been passing on already but to twist it so that it actually could help and make a bit of a change in girls lives. I realize that when you get to have a 13 or 14 year old girl in front of you, it’s at such a vital point in their lives where you have a direct impact on what path they take.

Barbara Turley: Everything they do thereafter.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: It’s such a pivotal time in their lives, yeah.

Marina Passalaris: It is, yeah.

Barbara Turley: Tell me, did the passion for potentially mentoring the minds of teenage girls, did it come from anything [inaudible 00:03:18] in your own life or anything your own story there?

Marina Passalaris: Yeah, I’ve always had that. I was a border from a very young age and my parents lived quite far away. I started boarding school when I was 11. I was always the girl from a very young age that everyone would come to and talk to.

Barbara Turley: To refer some help.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely. I always actually thought I’d get into psychology or counseling so I’ve always had that in me.

Barbara Turley: Isn’t it interesting now that you have ended up, not in psychology, but you do bring psychologists into your course [crosstalk 00:03:47].

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: Over the years, how has the course evolved? You’ve been in this course now for 8 years. How has it evolved in terms of have you seen changes in what you need to bring in in order to deal with some of the issues that girls are facing as opposed to what they were 8 years ago?

Marina Passalaris: I just love the whole growth of business in general because when you do start, you start in one very sort of set format and then do need to [crosstalk 00:04:12].

Barbara Turley: You’re stuck in your little niche, yeah.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely. For me, for Beautiful Minds, what’s changed a lot is the modules that we do.

Barbara Turley: Yeah.

Marina Passalaris: When we started 8 years ago we ever never spoke about social media. It wasn’t an issue. [Crosstalk 00:04:24] 2007 was when it was just starting to take on but girls didn’t really know that and can’t get involved in it at all. That’s been added into the program. We’ve definitely added in a lot more with body issues as well because it’s such a big issue. We started with a very small module whereas now they actually work with a nutritionist and they work with a psychologist and they work with the mind, positive mind expert as well. They’ve got three amazing people on board helping them with how they see themselves as a young girl. We’ve introduced money which has been really exciting.

Barbara Turley: Yes, I’m very excited about that topic and the fact that you’ve done that, yeah.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: For girls, the next generation of girls, how are they evolving? Is it for better or worse because some of the things you see out there, our girls are just getting drunk and ending up in social media in the wrong place for example and et cetera. I’m sure it’s the same as when we were teenagers but we always think the next generation are worse than us.

Marina Passalaris: I think they’re getting worse, personally.

Barbara Turley: I feel that myself but I didn’t want to put words in your mouth with that so it is interesting to see what we’re doing with that.

Marina Passalaris: I think it’s getting worse. I think our young girls don’t have enough positive role models, there’s not enough positive media that they’re seeing on an ongoing basis. The other thing that’s happening as well is social media really is having a huge impact on their lives. They’re 24 hours a day they’ve got access to world news and one thing that I’m hearing a lot from my teen girls is that they’re actually quite fearful. It’s a lot of anxiety.

Barbara Turley: Gosh, even I’m fearful with the stuff that’s going on but I can imagine how they feel.

Marina Passalaris: Yeah, absolutely. I think they need more support now than they’ve ever ever needed before.

Barbara Turley: It’s interesting because Sheryl Sandberg, who’s the COO of Facebook and she’s creator of the Lean In Organization. She’s been all over social media the last few days talking about it because normally she’s talking about our female leaders. She’s now talking about our girls and what are we doing to create the right environments for our future female visionaries. What are your thoughts on that? Are we doing enough?

Marina Passalaris: No, we’re definitely not. I still think that there’s this push, pull. Parents leave it up to the school, the school leaves it up to the parents. Most parents unfortunately divorce and many of my girls, we train thousands of girls every year, there’s probably 85% of those girls do not come from …

Barbara Turley: The traditional family years.

Marina Passalaris: Exactly. Our girls are actually not learning anything from anybody. We’re just expecting from generation to generation because we were taught table manners.

Barbara Turley: We assume that they will be.

Marina Passalaris: Yeah and you can’t assume that.

Barbara Turley: Nobody’s actually teaching that.

Marina Passalaris: No and that’s a ripple effect on all the subjects that we teach. Our girls are really really lost and when they want to know information as a 13 and 14 year old girl they hop onto Google.

Barbara Turley: Yeah. They get lots of information but who knows what?

Marina Passalaris: Exactly.

Barbara Turley: I know I personally a big believer in education. I just, I love the work that you’re doing because the only way that we are going to effect change is to get … This is not for just girls but boys as well and get them younger. You’re bringing girls into your courses at age 11. That’s just such a pivotal time in their lives and then taking them through often right up until 16 and 17.

Marina Passalaris: Yeah.

Barbara Turley: It’s amazing stuff. I want to talk obviously about the topic of money. I’m delighted that this topic has [inaudible 00:08:05] to your course. What was the decision or where did it come to that you made the decision to introduce money as a topic?

Marina Passalaris: I think as a business owner, you start a business and you make a lot of mistakes along the way. Then you look at it and you stand back and you go, “I’m in my late twenties and early thirties while still making these mistakes, why did no one teach me at school?” I went to one of the top private schools in South Africa and what blows my brain is that I can leave year 12 on the trek, as what we would call it, and I would know exactly how to dissect a frog but had no idea how to start a small business.

Barbara Turley: Or to read a balance sheet.

Marina Passalaris: No.

Barbara Turley: I know, yeah.

Marina Passalaris: I had no idea what good debt and bad debt was. You’re just basic.

Barbara Turley: You end up actually often in lots of debt because this happens to a lot of people, they leave school, they credit cards, and before they know it it’s free money and then at age 30 you’re stuck in a hole.

Marina Passalaris: Yeah.

Barbara Turley: Yeah.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely. I’m very passionate about actually changing the education system and the fact that, don’t talk to me about science and things, that’s fine if you want to choose it as a subject but let’s have a full on discussion about business and money. Girls are brought up to be terrified about money. They don’t talk about it, they think it’s bad, they think if you want it it’s a bad thing. I really want to change that even with the girls that come [crosstalk 00:09:29].

Barbara Turley: I love that because I know one of my own missions as well is obviously I want to change the feelings that women have about money. I want them to embrace it more. Now I’m starting to think about this idea of actually taking them a bit younger, just thinking about stuff we can do together down the track and teachings that I’m very passionate about that too.

I’m interested to know when you introduced, what was the reaction of the girls and of course the parents?

Marina Passalaris: It was funny. I had a lot of parents contacting prior to courses saying, “I don’t think she’s interested in the money side, maybe she could miss that class.” I had to really change the thought process of a lot of parents. I said to a lot of them, “Do you not think it at all is right to understand how to read a basic bank statement? Do you not think that, as a girl, she needs to have control over her finances from a very young age?” It’s the parents thought process around money which then spills onto the girls. There’s a bit of resistance.

Barbara Turley: I was thinking that the girls were saying, it’s because I was thinking that they would think it’s not exciting enough, that they want to do more of the styling and the make up and the etiquette and stuff like that that’s a bit more fun. It’s actually kind of sad to think that the parents …

Marina Passalaris: Yeah. There were few parents that didn’t embrace it fully. Then there was some amazing parents who I get emails from who would say, “This is incredible, thank you so much for doing this.” With the girls the parents tend to sign the girls up so the girls don’t really know in depth exactly what they’re doing until the moment that they’re doing it.

Barbara Turley: When you’re doing the talk on money or the section on money, how do the girls react then?

Marina Passalaris: They love it. They absolutely love it. They have these real “aha” moments. One of the biggest moments for them is when we actually show them, when my educator actually stands up and shows them what compound saving is. If start saving one dollar a day from the age of 16 right the way up to 65, how much money accumulated with interest you can actually have in the bank and they are horrified.

Barbara Turley: Do you think actually, do they understand the importance of them having that much money themselves?

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: Of course, a man is not a plan as they say. I’m hoping that the next generation are starting to realize that even if you do marry well and you marry a man that does earn a lot of money or has a lot of wealth, it’s very important for women to have their own wealth I think.

Marina Passalaris: I think, I always do that class with the educator because I always start off and tell them that I’m almost 37 and I am very happily single. I choose to be single because my mission is the business and it’s something that takes up an enormous amount of time for me. Everything that I’ve purchased, properties, car, lifestyle, I have supplied for myself. I try and be that role model for them where I say to them, “If you want to have choice in life with what you do and the holidays that you take and the things that you can purchase and the healthcare that you can afford.”

Barbara Turley: The life you want to live and the legacy you want to live.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely. Then you need to have control over it 100% for yourself. I have such a great relationship with them by that stage because we’ve spent so much time together that I hope I’m a little bit of a role model for them.

Barbara Turley: What do you think success looks like for our teen girls? I often think, does success look like for them “I’ve got three million followers on Twitter, I’m famous on Youtube,” what does success actually look like for them you think?

Marina Passalaris: I think for a lot of young girls there is definitely that because there seems to be this feeling that if you’ve got X amount of followers then you are loved or you are supported by a community or successful in whatever you do. I’m hoping that young girls will start to see success as a way that they can provide for themselves. That would be my idea of success for a young person.

Barbara Turley: Yeah and hopefully you can try and infiltrate that thinking.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: Marina, can you share any amazing success stories of some of the girls that have blossomed through your course and gone on to do fabulous things?

Marina Passalaris: There are so many.

Barbara Turley: Yeah and I can imagine.

Marina Passalaris: Over the eight years but I have got three that probably are the closest to my heart. Last year I attended one of my student’s wedding, which was so incredibly special.

Barbara Turley: How old is she? She’s not 12. She was a child bride, no.

Marina Passalaris: I think she was about 15 when she came into the, she was one of the first students. I actually ended up doing her wedding makeup and attending the wedding which was really special. One of the other students that I had when she was really young, she’s about 12. She came to me after almost losing her life to anorexia and she has gone on to be the most incredible incredible human being. She now educates, she comes back and talks to the girls about her journey and what she went through. She’s studying nursing which is fantastic.

Barbara Turley: Isn’t that fantastic?

Marina Passalaris: The third one is actually a young girl that the government sent to me in Queensland. I don’t know if you remember years ago this black building burned down on the Sunshine Coast.

Barbara Turley: Yes, I do.

Marina Passalaris: It was just before Christmas and it was really horrific. Everyone has no where to go and lost their jobs. The young boy that lit the fire was 13 years of age. I got a call the next morning and they said to me, “Look, his girlfriend is also 13 [inaudible 00:14:55] you’re doing a Beautiful Minds course in the December school holidays. Can we send her along?” Now, this is a 13 year old girl who had no family, she was living in foster care. She had a boyfriend that was being sent off the juvenile young court. She fell pregnant as well, she was pregnant and was beat up so badly by this youngster’s father that she had lost the baby. It was just tragedy after tragedy and when you looked at this young girl’s life, she was also doing drugs, there was no way for her to go, you wouldn’t think, for heading forward.

Barbara Turley: Anywhere.

Marina Passalaris: Normally Beautiful Minds doesn’t attract kids like that [crosstalk 00:15:33].

Barbara Turley: Yeah, that feels to me like it’s a different … That’s a different subset.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely. Beautiful Minds is normally more private school girls tend to come through, unfortunately because of the price. She came and did it and I spent an enormous amount of time with her. At that stage we were doing the ten week course so come once a week. I would drop her off at her foster family. We became very close. Couple of months ago I was on the Sunshine Coast for business and I heard this young girl call out Marina. I turned around and she said to me, it’s me. I would never have recognized her and I get quite emotional.

Barbara Turley: This must have been so emotional for you.

Marina Passalaris: She just said to me, “I did your course,” and she said, “I just wanted to tell you that you saved my life.”

Barbara Turley: I’ve got goosebumps. That’s why you’re vision is so strong.

Marina Passalaris: Yeah. She was at university, she was starting, she was in a serious relationship, and she said to me, “You know Marina, you were the only person that believed in me.”

Barbara Turley: I could be something different, yeah.

Marina Passalaris: Exactly.

Barbara Turley: Is that, as well, I know you’ve obviously got big plans for your business, have you seen that you want to serve more, do you want to serve more of those kinds of girls as well? You don’t want them to be excluded because of the price.

Marina Passalaris: Of course I don’t. That’s where I’ve learned a lot with business as well that you have to start at a point and I need to start at a point where we could make money, build a business, market it [crosstalk 00:17:00].

Barbara Turley: Create a concept as well.

Marina Passalaris: Exactly. Another concept that has been created and it’s been successful, I’ve sat back and I’ve gone, “It’s all very well that we’re doing these courses all over Australia but only that percentage of people can actually have access to it.” Whereas now, if we put it online and we make it very accessible for young girls to do, then we do the one day event all over Australia that is really really affordable. Then we have a couple of boutique retreats here and there. They’re looking at three different tiers in the market place. That’s really exciting for me.

Barbara Turley: I think I need make a call to the government to be more involved.

Marina Passalaris: Barbara I … If anyone from the government is listening we need more of this out there.

Barbara Turley: Yes, definitely. I think it’s such an important time in these girls lives. Women like you and hopefully myself now, meeting you and doing some work together that we can really change this.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: I want to go back to what you said about how girls have been brought up with the attitudes they have to money because recently [inaudible 00:18:03] here in Australia did a survey. What the survey found, it was a money confidence survey, what the survey found was that obviously men are more confident about money than women. I wasn’t really surprised by that but I was very surprised to find that men have twice the amount of savings that women do.

Marina Passalaris: That’s amazing.

Barbara Turley: Isn’t it amazing. Despite the fact that women tend to value security more than men and men take more risks and things like that. I’m actually wondering where, and I’ve asked some of the other guests I’ve on the show about this actually, where is it coming from? Do you think girls and boys are being brought up with different attitudes to money and if so, what do you think they are?

Marina Passalaris: I’ll tell you where it’s coming from. It’s coming directly from the media. I had a real problem with the fact that if there’s a sports car ad there’s a man driving it.

Barbara Turley: It’s got man driving it and usually a beautiful girl in the passenger seat.

Marina Passalaris: And there’s a handbag sitting in the passenger seat, exactly. If there is a home loan, there’s a man. There’s not enough ads out there where women are looking powerful and making decisions based on money that they’re in the driver’s seat.

Barbara Turley: Yes. Also are also feminine and beautiful, I think sometimes as women, the media tries to portray powerful women as very masculine.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: That’s a total turn off for most women.

Marina Passalaris: Masculine and bitchy. I’m telling you one thing, I’m neither of those and you’re not either.

Barbara Turley: I don’t know why they do that. I think what our girls are seeing is unfortunately a lot of this and you’re right through social media as well, there’s a lot of that coming.

Marina Passalaris: We still just need to twist the roles a little bit and let our girls just understand that you can go out there and be in a loving relationship and have beautiful babies and create a great life for yourself but you can also be in control of your money and you can make the decision to buy great things for yourself.

Barbara Turley: Yeah.

Marina Passalaris: There’s such an achievement when you buy something and I know you feel the same way.

Barbara Turley: Yes, I do.

Marina Passalaris: When you buy something and you’ve purchased it and you’ve worked really hard for it.

Barbara Turley: It’s a different feeling.

Marina Passalaris: It’s a very different feeling.

Barbara Turley: Completely. Yeah I do think as women … What’s interesting to me though is women, and I’m saying women here but I suppose our girls are coming up into this, we don’t have a problem marrying it or divorcing it.

Marina Passalaris: No.

Barbara Turley: Yet, we seem to have this block with making our own or it being our own drive towards that. I’m wondering what more … Is it just social media or the media or what more could we be doing? Obviously more of your course out there would be fantastic.

Marina Passalaris: Our parents don’t … I’ve come from an incredibly entrepreneur family that my parents as far back as I can remember, we would all sit down in the breeze way, which is this beautiful little room in the front of the house and we would have a cup of tea at the end of the day and would find out about each other’s days. One thing my folks always did around my sister and I from a very young age was to talk about money.

Barbara Turley: That’s so unusual.

Marina Passalaris: My mother was very very very very high up in my dad’s business, she was running a division of it. They would always talk about accumulating property and what they were going to do together and how they were going to grow the family.

Barbara Turley: In an exciting way.

Marina Passalaris: It was very exciting. We would, as kids, be taken on drives around town to be shown what properties they were going [crosstalk 00:21:16]. Money was never dirty, money was something that mom and dad did together, and there was always this really cool business attitude from a very young age.

Barbara Turley: That’s what made it exciting for you actually and something to go after.

Marina Passalaris: Of course it did, it was a game.

Barbara Turley: It was a game and that’s exactly what it is. Money is a game, it’s a fun game.

Marina Passalaris: Monopoly with real …

Barbara Turley: I think lots of us are brought up with parents fighting about money, financial strain unfortunately. I think kids take on that of course.

Marina Passalaris: Of course they do.

Barbara Turley: I think another thing that’s probably an issue for girls is if, this is a generalization but if you have couples or marriages where the father is very controlling of the money and the mother doesn’t really have any control there, as girls I think you’re watching that. You’re equating money then with control or lack of money with lack of control, things like that.

Marina Passalaris: This is where education comes in. Your incredible program on financial success, if people can get those into their hands and they can have that access to that and schools can talk about it and Beautiful Minds is just about to go online soon. People will be able to buy the course at the end of the year. It’s just trying to get as much information into our kids hands as possible.

Barbara Turley: Yeah. I want to talk a little bit now about your business and your entrepreneurial journey. As you know, I know from speaking to you, it’s like all entrepreneurial journeys, it’s been interesting.

Marina Passalaris: Yes.

Barbara Turley: It’s been a journey. What would you say, what have been the greatest learnings for you in launching your own business and having this journey?

Marina Passalaris: For me, I think the greatest thing would be just being open to change.

Barbara Turley: Yeah.

Marina Passalaris: You start a business a certain way and losing the control. When I first started, I had this real tight hold over how it was going to be and I wanted to control it and through the control there was no growth. As soon as I can relinquish that now I’ve got 60 educators on board, Australian wide. There are a lot of courses that I don’t attend and a lot of workshops that I’m unable to get to. It’s just loosening that control and letting people stand and deliver the program for you.

Barbara Turley: Yeah and their expertise.

Marina Passalaris: You can spread it and it can grow.

Barbara Turley: Yeah and then it can actually grow. I know something I’m very passionate about, I talk about it a lot in my program and in a lot of my interviews and you know I’m passionate about this, is about getting the business model right.

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely.

Barbara Turley: In a business is so important but it’s also getting a business model that is in alignment with your personal vision and also your business vision. They have to be in alignment together to make it work for you. Of course that involves stream lining, systematizing things, and using leverage. I’m interested, I know recently you’ve been changing your business model a little bit.

Marina Passalaris: Changing.

Barbara Turley: Yeah, it’s quite a lot and introducing more leverage. Where did the decision come from to do that?

Marina Passalaris: I’ve gotten to a point with my business where twice a month I was flying all over the show trying to do all the courses and I really had to sit back and think, this is the business module that we’ve had today. It’s been very successful but things needed to change. For me, a couple things happened. I had a business in Queensland that pretty much just copied and paste everything that we did. It was a real rip off course. [Crosstalk 00:24:39].

Barbara Turley: Of course that’s going to happen. That’s going to happen.

Marina Passalaris: Of course it’s going to happen. It’s unfortunately the more successful you become, the more people will copy what you’re doing. I refuse to be doing anything that is similar to what someone else is going to be doing. Also society’s changed so for me, taking the course online at the end of the year so that it is then open to an international market was something that I’m very passionate about doing. We’re going to get to a stage with Beautiful Minds in 2015 that we actually won’t run the smaller courses. If you want to have that amazing interaction with all the educators, you do it at home over a ten week period.

Barbara Turley: You can reach more teens that way.

Marina Passalaris: Can reach more teens and then what we’ll actually do is we’ll do the Beautiful Minds inspire events Australia wide.

Barbara Turley: Will those be big events?

Marina Passalaris: They’re huge events. We’re looking at the first one …

Barbara Turley: [Crosstalk 00:25:32]. The teens will love that, all girls?

Marina Passalaris: All girls. The first one actually is in Sydney in Paddington at Paddington Town Hall in September this year. We’ve got 550 teen girls attending that. That’s going to be the first one.

Barbara Turley: Wow. That’s going to be [crosstalk 00:25:47].

Marina Passalaris: Amazing. [Crosstalk 00:25:49].

Barbara Turley: It’s so much fun.

Marina Passalaris: They’ve got dances, they’ve got performers, they’ve got DJs, they’ve got guest speakers, there are a number of celebrities that have put their hand up and said, “I want to be involved in this, I want to help spread a positive word and be a positive role model for teen girl.” The aim is to actually do that and have it as a bit of a road show. We’ll take that around Australia and every year a different capital city will have a Beautiful Minds show in town.

Barbara Turley: Absolutely. Each city will have one every year?

Marina Passalaris: Each city will have one every year so we’ll do six events. We’ll do Perth, Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney, Brisbane, and either Cairns or Townsville we’re just working that out.

Barbara Turley: What about international [inaudible 00:26:33]?

Marina Passalaris: That’s on the bucket list.

Barbara Turley: Yeah. As a savvy femtripreneur, as I’ve been calling all my guests, the future, what does the future hold for Beautiful Minds and Marina Passalaris, citizen international audience?

Marina Passalaris: Absolutely. I never think of business as I live in Sydney and so it is confined to Sydney. I think I’ve proved this over the last 8 years with running Beautiful Minds and implications around Australia. I feel I’ve done my time, I’ve done my foundation work, I’ve got another year and a half up my sleeve and then it’s the U.S. definitely.

Barbara Turley: Then your digital program will be ready by the end of the year?

Marina Passalaris: Digital program will be ready the end of the year. My book is obviously sold internationally. We’re really just starting to get out internationally.

Barbara Turley: Yeah.

Marina Passalaris: Definitely I’d like to actually host Beautiful Minds inspire events for teen girls around the world. That’s the grand plan.

Barbara Turley: Absolutely amazing. Marina, it’s been a real pleasure having you on the show today. Our viewers, there’s going to be some international viewers here today as well, if they want to find out more about the amazing work that you do and start to follow you when that digital stuff does come online and they have some teen girls they know, how can they follow you? How can they find you?

Marina Passalaris: Best thing is [inaudible 00:27:46], I love my social media so we’re everywhere. Basically it’s jump onto the Beautiful Minds website which is just BeautifulMinds.com.au and then you can actually follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook, and Pinterest.

Barbara Turley: Brilliant.

Marina Passalaris: As well as the Youtube channel.

Barbara Turley: It’s been an absolute joy having you on the show. I’m so glad that you came on the show because this is a topic that is close to my heart and it’s just great to see the work that you are actually doing for our teen girls.

Marina Passalaris: Thank you.

Barbara Turley: I want to encourage everybody out there to support Marina because it’s such a big mission, this one.

Marina Passalaris: Thank you very much.

Barbara Turley: Thank you to everyone for watching another episode of Feminine Wealth TV today. Remember that you can catch me later this week on my podcast Wealth Unplugged where I’m going to be taking some of my key take outs from my chat with Marina today and telling some stories about what I think about today’s show. Also remember to join me next week where I’m going to be joined by Lisa and Kay from the Clinique here in Sydney. We’re going to be talking about the business of beauty. It’s a booming but tricky business.

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