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Welcome to another episode of Feminine Wealth TV!
This week I had the pleasure of delving into the million dollar super success of online retail boutique Showpo with it’s gorgeous and bubbly CEO Jane Lu.
In just 4 short years, Jane has managed to turn her twin obsessions of fashion and social media into a multi million dollar powerhouse – turning rags into riches!
The fashion savvy entrepreneur tells how she secretly escaped from corporate life to start a passion business only to discover just how tricky business can be. When her first business failed she quickly pivoted and ShowPo as we know it today was born.
Harnessing the power of social media, a whole lot of hustle and a spaghetti strap budget she grew a tribe of raving fans that devour what she sells. This formula has seen her expand beyond her wildest dreams and continue to go from strength to strength …… all without even the whiff of a business plan!
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Barbara Turley: Hi there. I’m Barbara Turley. You’re watching another episode of Feminine Wealth TV. Today I am joined on the show by a girl who has left corporate four years ago, with zero experience in retail. She’s now doing million dollar months in her business. Please welcome to the show Jane Liu: of Showpo.
Jane Liu: Thanks for having me.
Barbara Turley: Yeah, you’re very welcome on the show. I’ve been trying to get you on the show for a little while actually. I’ve been following you and all the stuff that you’ve been doing.
Jane Liu: We just wanted to wait to get the beautiful office space.
Barbara Turley: Yes. Yeah. We’re in these gorgeous offices. It looks nice in here.
Jane Liu: Thank you.
Barbara Turley: Jane, you’re a superstar. I’ve seen you. You’ve been interviewed all over the place. People are really following you now with the success that you’ve had. On this show, I’d love to sort of go back to the beginnings, because people always see successful people when they’ve had success. Right back in the beginning, you actually had chosen a corporate career for yourself and wanted to be in the multinational corporate world.
Jane Liu: Yeah, that’s right.
Barbara Turley: Tell me about that and sort of how that all started for you.
Jane Liu: I’ve always been quite academic. As an only child, my parents kind of wanted me to … it’s this like Chinese immigrant mentality.
Barbara Turley: I was going to say, Chinese parents. Yeah. Yeah.
Jane Liu: To just really be successful in their corporate world. Their vision for me as upper middle management. For them, that was the bees knees. Ever since I was young, I’ve kind of somewhat been conditioned and also I actually believed that I had an interest in commerce and finance. I did do well in those subjects at school. I was on that trajectory to just work in a multinational. My dreams back then was to work in a city skyscraper, wear a suit everyday, and do the whole corporate thing, which I did. Because I did quite well at school, when I was 18, I actually started working at KPMG, which was my dream.
Barbara Turley: At 18?
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: Did you go to uni or did you just go straight in and –
Jane Liu: I was at uni part time and I was full time at KPMG. It was a cadetship program.
Barbara Turley: You were the serious corporate career woman doing the corporate thing.
Jane Liu: Yes. Really ambitious back then. Once I started, I realized it wasn’t … I think it was great that I have started so early, because I realized quite early on that it wasn’t really for me. I loved Friday night drinks in the city, the social side of it, but really just staring at those spreadsheets everyday just really wasn’t –
Barbara Turley: Boring.
Jane Liu: Yeah. It killed me.
Barbara Turley: It wasn’t lighting you up.
Jane Liu: Yeah. Just before I left my job, I was working at Ernst & Young, and I spent all my time on Facebook.
Barbara Turley: Ernst & Young, if you’re listening. I mean look at her now. You started the career. Yeah.
Jane Liu: Yeah, I just hated what I was doing. I loved social media as far as killing my time. Never did I think I could actually make a career out of that.
Barbara Turley: Yeah. As I say, a multi million dollar business actually. That’s why people are going to be really interested in this show. Tell me then. You’ve got this pressure to be in this corporate world. You’ve decided that this is your path. When do you wake up and go, “You know what?” Because it takes a lot of guts to say, “I’m going to leave.” Did you have an idea of what you wanted to do? Did you have a plan? Did you just wake up one day and say, “That’s it. I’m out of the corporate. I’ve got to find something to do.”
Jane Liu: I think it was somewhat this young foolish phase I was in. I did a business, like my first business, with some other business partners that actually failed. Because the business partners I had were not working at that time, I felt this pressure to also leave my job. I thought I should give it 100% to this other business. Within one month, I had actually quit my job then, this business failed.
Barbara Turley: Failed.
Jane Liu: At that time, I was devastated. It’s still my personal rock bottom, that moment. It was a blessing in disguise, because soon after that, a month later, I fell into this. It was more pride. I couldn’t go back into the corporate world.
Barbara Turley: You just had to.
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: What was the other business, because you had business partners. What was that business? Was it fashion as well?
Jane Liu: Kind of. It was opening up pop up stores.
Barbara Turley: Oh okay. Blessing in disguise that that didn’t work.
Jane Liu: Yeah. It wasn’t scalable. We didn’t really have a strong business model. I think that’s when we were just excited to have a business rather than focus on the actual core business itself.
Barbara Turley: The actual doing.
Jane Liu: Whether the MVB works.
Barbara Turley: Yeah.
Jane Liu: I think it’s great, because I learnt so many lessons from that too, which has led to where I am today.
Barbara Turley: What I love is I read about you obviously before the show. Was that during the period where you had actually given up your job and started these startups but your parents didn’t know. They thought you were still going to the city everyday to work in the corporate job and keep the sort of dream alive, yeah?
Jane Liu: Yeah, that’s right. I was living at my parents, because I just came back from overseas. I was broke, so I couldn’t afford to move out. I couldn’t possibly tell them that I’ve just –
Barbara Turley: Left the high paying job.
Jane Liu: Yeah, because they were so happy for me. I was well ahead of where they thought I would be. They were just so proud of everything that I’ve done leading up to that moment. To tell them that I’ve given everything up … I mean they’ve pretty much immigrated to Australia to me. I couldn’t possibly just tell them I’m going to start selling clothes.
Barbara Turley: That would just be like the greatest devastation for them.
Jane Liu: Yeah, and to tell them I’m selling things online, because for them, the online … It still seems like this internet bubble. That was in their mind. I literally just had to put on my suit. I used to go work before them and come home after them. I would have to put on my suit. Carry around my empty laptop bag and just wander around the city.
Barbara Turley: And go to a café or something?
Jane Liu: I was working as a receptionist for a while just to make up some money and just pretty much wandered around just kind of figuring out what my business plan was.
Barbara Turley: That must’ve been a bit lonely at that time. How did you cope with that to keep going, because you must start to question yourself and doubt what you’re doing.
Jane Liu: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I actually had a business partner for the first year of Showpo. We were Showpony back then. It was great that I had her to turn to. I felt this detachment from my corporate friends. Most of my friends were working corporate. It was hard for them to understand. Also, it was embarrassing for me to have Friday night drinks with everyone and talk about how I’ve just sat on my couch all week.
Barbara Turley: Yeah, exactly.
Jane Liu: Or I just wandered the city.
Barbara Turley: I mean it’s hard enough starting a business without coping with all that emotional stuff as well, the emotional roller coaster.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly.
Barbara Turley: Tell me as well. Obviously you didn’t have a huge bank of money behind you to start this business. Again, I always like to talk to people and get into the nitty gritty of like in the beginning, you didn’t have investors on board starting out. You didn’t obviously have a huge bank of savings behind you. How did you cope in the beginning? You were living with your parents, obviously.
Jane Liu: Credit cards, two minute noodles, eating leftovers, sneaking wine bottles into bars. You just have to make do. Yeah, when I started the business, I had $15,000 of debt from quitting one of the jobs, quitting KPMG, because it was kind of like a cadetship, scholarship program. I had my [inaudible 00:07:55] debt, which is $30,000. I had personal debt from traveling. My only source of funding was credit cards. I had to pull on that.
Back in the day, it was a lot easier. The ecommerce environment was actually a lot easier, because there wasn’t this level of competition. I built my own website just by Googling how to do HTML.
Barbara Turley: I mean you had to, because you didn’t really have any money to do this.
Jane Liu: At that time, I think people had low expectations. It looked all right. We made money from it. I think if you do it these days, it’s a lot harder.
Barbara Turley: How did you do it? So you put a site up. The whole thing is the traffic and how did you get people to the site then?
Jane Liu: Social media.
Barbara Turley: Actually start selling.
Jane Liu: Yeah, that’s where my years of wasting time on Facebook paid off. I managed to bring in all my traffic through Facebook back then, without even having to advertise.
Barbara Turley: Yeah, back then it was easier too. Now it’s really competitive on there.
Jane Liu: That’s right. Now the bigger companies have caught on. Anyone can open a store and start advertising on Facebook. Back then, I think I bought stuff from consignment.
Barbara Turley: I was going to say the stock thing. There’s obviously like the setting up the business. There’s website and Facebook to get stuff in. All of that you did for free kind of thing, because you did it yourself.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: You’re selling a product. How did you cope with, like again, were there times when the financial strain was almost too much to bear? How did you get through that? That’s really the key, I think, that people will want to know. How did you get through that apart from two minute noodles? You do what you got to do I suppose.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly. I remember once I had to … I couldn’t afford to take a taxi home at 3 AM after a night out, so I just walked home. It’s a mere $15 taxi, but on my way home, I had flyers, so I letter dropped on my way back home I thought this will pay for my taxi next time.
Barbara Turley: Yeah. Right.
Jane Liu: It’s also all about the hustle. I don’t know. I think it’s kind of foolish. To be fair, I think it’s kind of foolish to think that you can just get through without any money. It’s kind of like that struggling artist kind of dream for me. I actually started to generate income when I opened a pop up store. It was kind of like a kiosk in the center of Westfield. I don’t actually think markers necessarily do work. I mean they do work for your [inaudible 00:10:22] and the odd few. I tell most people it is actually a waste of time, but we managed to do really well because of this specific opportunity we had in the hundred square store.
Barbara Turley: That’s some money in the drawer for you.
Jane Liu: Yeah, I think having that actual cash flow allowed me to actually pump up the advertising. It’s great, because by this point, the website started being tweaked better. We had better photography. I started to really learn the ins and outs of running a business. Once we had some money in the door, just from the store, I pumped up advertising and that’s when –
Barbara Turley: Put all the money back in the business.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly.
Barbara Turley: Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people actually out there are starting businesses on a shoestring, which is fine, but they’re focusing a lot on the look and feel of the website, the branding, all these sort of stuff that really you need to get the money in the door.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: And fast, so that you can actually grow and –
Jane Liu: A lot of people, I think, spend most of their money on the website and also on stock. Whereas without the marketing, there’s no use for having that website, because it’s such a competitive and cluttered and saturated space on the ecommerce side of things. People try and get their websites to be perfect, but that’s only based on their view so without testing it with your customers, like real customers.
Barbara Turley: If you don’t have any customers, it doesn’t matter.
Jane Liu: Exactly. Yeah. Your product mix, there’s no way you’re ever … We still don’t have our product mix perfect. There’s no way you really will know when you start unless you actually put your products out there to the market.
Barbara Turley: And just do it.
Jane Liu: Exactly, yeah.
Barbara Turley: One of the things I loved about when I was reading about some of your philosophies. I guess they’ve grown into philosophies. I absolutely loved the one about the business plan, because I’m actually in the wealth space, and I’m in the financial industry and all that. I really should be a fan of business plans.
Jane Liu: Yup.
Barbara Turley: But I’ve actually haven’t done it all myself either. I have a kind of a strategic vision plan and stages of the business that I would like to see come to life, but I’m not really a big believer in … I’ve got friends who’ve put huge business plans together and they’ve never done anything with it.
Jane Liu: Exactly, yeah.
Barbara Turley: Or it changes too quickly.
Jane Liu: You get too constrained by the business plan, because you don’t want … You actually use it more like a manual or a bible. You’re working –
Barbara Turley: You have to change or shift or –
Jane Liu: You’re working for the business plan. You’re trying to get everything to be according to the business plan rather than just adapting to the market, to demand, to what your customers actually want.
Barbara Turley: Yeah.
Jane Liu: That’s what’s so boring.
Barbara Turley: It’s so boring. I know. It’s so boring. I think a lot of people get too caught up in stuff like that when really, like you say, it’s about sales marketing and listening to your customer.
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: What do they actually want and get out there and actually do it.
Jane Liu: Sometimes it just feels like a school assignment. You’re looking at your [inaudible 00:13:21] analysis and your …
Barbara Turley: Exhausting.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly.
Barbara Turley: Tell me. Social media has been obviously one of the greatest things that has grown this business for you. Tell me in today’s sort of social media environment, what would you give as the top two or three tips that online businesses that you think work? What’s been the secret of your success? How about that?
Jane Liu: I think it’s really about having good content, not trying to sell to your customers. I think lots of mistakes a lot of people make, they feel like they need to constantly blast their news feed with the products that they have. You have to think from a customer or follower perspective. They don’t care about your brand until –
Barbara Turley: They’re ready to buy.
Jane Liu: They’re ready, yeah. It’s really about building up that community. Once you build a community, then if you sell to them –
Barbara Turley: Are they an easier sell?
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: Once you have them in the community?
Jane Liu: Yeah, because if you just blast your newsfeed with product posts, your followers will not … They’re not going to share your page or your post with their network. That’s ultimately what you want to do. If you have good content, they’ll naturally share that for you. That’s how you organically grow. Once you have a big following and you put out a product post, that’s when you –
Barbara Turley: Then you get traction.
Jane Liu: Exactly. You have a much bigger audience.
Barbara Turley: Yeah.
Jane Liu: I say to a lot of startups or people who are thinking about starting a business, don’t wait until you have a product before you start –
Barbara Turley: Building your tribe, your community.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly. One of the questions I actually received the other day was how long can I have an Instagram page for before I have a product?
Barbara Turley: Years.
Jane Liu: You can have it for as long as possible. No one cares about your product yet. No one knows about your product. No one’s holding their breath until your product comes out. Just start building a community and start learning about what works and not. Social media’s so easy to understand what works and what doesn’t, because you just look at your engagement rate.
Barbara Turley: Engagement rate.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: The thing that I love that you did as well is this whole selfie thing, this whole let me take a selfie thing. I mean you got that going really, really well. What I love about what you did is you brought your tribe or your community or the people who follow you into the kind of fold. People started taking selfies of themselves in your clothing line and posting them on your Facebook page.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly.
Barbara Turley: Or on the Instagram page. You brought them into the whole engagement thing.
Jane Liu: Exactly. For our other customers, because the photos they’re taking feeds into the product that they’re wearing, other customers can actually go on to the website. Once they’re looking at the dress, this particular dress, they’ll see girls, all different sizes and shapes, styled differently.
Barbara Turley: Styled differently, yeah, okay.
Jane Liu: It’s a great community vibe. It’s a peer review system.
Barbara Turley: Yeah.
Jane Liu: It’s not as boring as reading reviews.
Barbara Turley: How do you start that though? That’s the whole holy grail of how did you start that? How did you sort of get people to … Is it just by themselves they started doing that? How did you do the creation of this engagement? You got like 90,000 people engaging on your page.
Jane Liu: Back in the days, we used to just, because we featured some people on our Facebook, in our spotters section, other girls because they wanted to be spotted. We feature everyone. It just started growing organically. Nowadays it’s in our flyer.
Barbara Turley: Yeah. That’s really, really clever. Yeah. Tell me about things like PR. Did you use any PR in the beginning? You didn’t have money for PR in the beginning. Have you ever paid for any sort of PR?
Jane Liu: We have tried PR. I really don’t think it works for us because I think the way of social marketing has changed now into social media, like Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. These are the areas that people are spending a lot of time rather than magazines.
Barbara Turley: Yeah, that’s true actually. The traction you can get online is massive if you can get it right, of course.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly. Compared to traditional PR methods where if your product is placed in a magazine, that’s not measurable.
Barbara Turley: That’s the challenge. You think you pay all this money for advertising there and you don’t know if you’re going to get me results from that.
Jane Liu: Exactly. Whereas if you send something to a blogger, they feature it. You know there’s a certain amount of traffic they get. You give them a coupon code. You can see how much it’s being used. It’s just much easier to do it ourselves than working with PR. Traditionally, there’s also like websites like SourceBottle where you can send your press release. It hasn’t really worked for us. I’ve heard it does for other people.
Barbara Turley: Yeah. Yeah. The business today, the last two or three months, you’ve done million dollar months, right? How does it feel when somebody says that to you? Is it uncomfortable, still?
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: I can see it in your face.
Jane Liu: Yes. I was talking to someone else about their business. They had a 200,000 month. I thought, “That’s incredible, $200,000.” They’re like, “You did more.” I didn’t even realize. It hasn’t sunk in yet.
Barbara Turley: It hasn’t registered for you yet. Obviously what comes with that, and I know we were talking off air, what comes with that is then everybody wanting to interview you, everybody wants to know who Jane Liu: is and how you did it, just like what we’re doing here. How are you finding that from a personal perspective, like emotionally. How do you find that?
Jane Liu: Well it’s flattering. I love talking in general like to friends. I’m a nervous speaker.
Barbara Turley: I get that too. Yeah, I don’t like … People have said, “You’re really good at speaking.” I always think yeah, but I don’t feel … It is uncomfortable. It’s uncomfortable doing it. It’s putting yourself and your own name out there and your brand and all that. All of a sudden, everybody knows who you are. That actually brings with it its own challenges.
Jane Liu: I’m not going to watch this video probably for a few months. Then I’ll get a bottle of wine and then i’ll watch it. That’s what I’ve done previously. I cringe too much. I think I wait until the point where it’s too late to have done anything to change it. Then I’m okay to watching it.
Barbara Turley: Then if you have had someone like you when you started out, if there had been a video like this, how beneficial do you think it would’ve been for you?
Jane Liu: Oh absolutely. I think it would’ve been more motivating to see someone my age who has had a failed business, who doesn’t have experience, who has done it, who can admit it’s not easy and I don’t always know what I’m doing. Most of the time I’m not sure what I’m doing.
Barbara Turley: You just feel your way around.
Jane Liu: Yeah. Once you build a robust business, you can afford to make mistakes as long as you learn from them. You have a strong team. You can do it.
Barbara Turley: Well the team is the other thing. How quickly did you bring on staff?
Jane Liu: Probably too long.
Barbara Turley: Too late?
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: You waited too long. Everyone waits too long, yeah.
Jane Liu: Yeah. Two and a half years ago, I was still in my parent’s garage. Only because I wanted to go on holidays, I went to Miami for a music festival with friends, I actually hired my first person. Then from there, very, very, very slowly started taking on staff to the point where in terms of the girls in the office, there’s eight of us now. Only a month ago, there were only six of us.
Barbara Turley: You’re growing everyday.
Jane Liu: Which surprises everyone. Yeah.
Barbara Turley: You’re growing so quickly. It really surprises me that you only took staff on two and half years ago. It feels like this business has been … Obviously now the way it looks, it looks beautiful. It hasn’t been like that all the time, I know.
Jane Liu: I think it’s hard for anyone to let go of control and to start paying for … when you start you’re so poor, every dollar counts, to start paying for someone –
Barbara Turley: You could do it yourself.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: Did your revenue explode after you hired somebody?
Jane Liu: It started exploding once I started spending more on marketing.
Barbara Turley: Okay, so you just kept pushing money back into the marketing.
Jane Liu: Definitely once I started hiring people, I was able to focus more on business development.
Barbara Turley: And marketing and ideas and strategies and stuff like that.
Jane Liu: Yeah. That’s the thing. The first thing you need to do is have good systems and controls and processes, but when you’re so busy doing everything … I was doing the buying, like stop taking the clothes one at a time, doing the photoshoots, steaming it, uploading to the website, uploading to Facebook, processing orders.
Barbara Turley: 24 hour job.
Jane Liu: Like taking all the orders to the post office, dealing with customer service, just a bunch of things. Someone tells you, “You really need to put in good, strong systems, and write up some manuals to grow.
Barbara Turley: Yeah and you think, when am I going to find time to do that?
Jane Liu: Yeah, that’s the last thing you want to do. It’s just something you have to force yourself.
Barbara Turley: You have to do that, yeah. Tell me. Mentorship, I’ve seen you as part of the entourage and you were part of that sort of group for a while. What do you think of what you get out of groups like that and the mentorship idea. Did you feel that really pivoted things for you?
Jane Liu: I’ve never actually had a mentor. I do like having that peer community. At the moment, I’m part of a group called EO, Entrepreneurs Organization. We have a round table where we talk about important issues that we’re having in our business. It helps you deal with not just the business side of things, but also the emotional side.
Barbara Turley: It is a roller coaster.
Jane Liu: Yeah, which people don’t talk about. It’s hard to …
Barbara Turley: Especially when you’re successful. People look at you and go, “Oh look at her. She’s doing a million dollars a month. What possible problem could she possibly have?” You’re saying what are the kind of the challenges that you face personally? Is it still pushing really hard or finding time for yourself? What are the major challenges you feel?
Jane Liu: Well –
Barbara Turley: Managing your personal life.
Jane Liu: Yeah. Well that’s okay.
Barbara Turley: That’s done.
Jane Liu: I think at some point, you still … I forget sometimes that I have to be the team leader.
Barbara Turley: Yeah, you’ve got to lead a team.
Jane Liu: Yeah.
Barbara Turley: You’re at the helm. You’re like the one everyone’s looking to for the vision.
Jane Liu: Yeah. When you doubt yourself, it’s kind of … It’s when you’ve had your hard days. I think it’s important to not get anxious about the little things. It is a roller coaster. I think having a long term perspective really helps.
Barbara Turley: Actually, just on that, like you were saying, the hard days, like the days that you doubt yourself, do you still have days where you doubt yourself?
Jane Liu: Oh absolutely.
Barbara Turley: That’s really important for us to know. Even you have days that you doubt yourself. Yeah, and look how well you’ve been doing.
Jane Liu: Oh thank you.
Barbara Turley: You know?
Jane Liu: It’s like this episode of Simpsons, I don’t know if that’s the best analogy, where Homer’s trying to invent things like Edison. When he finally finds Edison’s house, he realizes what Edison has … He’s been trying to be like Einstein. He doesn’t feel like he’s accomplished anything. The more you grow, the more your vision –
Barbara Turley: Your vision expands.
Jane Liu: Exactly. You’re never satisfied. That’s human nature.
Barbara Turley: You’re looking at the next levels up of Naomi Simson of RedBalloon and all these people who are mega.
Jane Liu: Exactly. I think ultimately, the trick is work hard to have a great team. Then when you’re having a bad day, just turn to someone. I think sometimes you just need something to help you get over that moment. It’s not the end of the world.
Barbara Turley: You just accept that … I mean I think it’s really good, particularly for us women, to realize that we all have those days. That is you’re not alone. That is just a part of it. On those days, you have to just go, “You know what? Today’s one of those days.”
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: Today’s that day.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: And push through it in that way.
Jane Liu: Yeah. To be honest, one of my excuses, if I’m having a bad day, it comes out. It really comes out. I don’t want that.
Barbara Turley: Well it’s the team, then you got to lead the team.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: It’s hard. That’s the challenge of growing to the next level.
Jane Liu: Exactly.
Barbara Turley: Tell me. As a savvy femtrepreneur, as I’ve been calling all of my guests on the show, what does the future hold for Jane Liu:? What’s the big vision for you?
Jane Liu: Well for global domination?
Barbara Turley: Excellent. I love that. Girl power.
Jane Liu: Yeah, one step at a time. Yeah, I think it’s just to keep doing what we’re doing. I’m having a lot of fun. Our team, we have a world of fun. Just to really build out this brand into a global brand.
Barbara Turley: Keep doing what you’re doing.
Jane Liu: Yeah, exactly.
Barbara Turley: You know I have a virtual assistant who’s in the Philippines. I was telling her I was coming to interview you today. She loves fashion. I was showing her your site and everything. She’s like, “Oh that’s so cool.” She loves what you’re doing.
Jane Liu: Oh thank you.
Barbara Turley: I’m sure the brand will grow massively all around the world. If people want to follow you and they want to know more about your Showpo, where should they go?
Jane Liu: The website is showpo.com. S-H-O-W-P-O.
Barbara Turley: It will be here right now.
Jane Liu: Yeah. Our instagram is iloveshowpo.
Barbara Turley: Iloveshowpo, yes.
Jane Liu: Facebook is /iloveshowpo. If you want to follow my personal Instagram, it’s thelazyceo. By lazy, I don’t mean like sleeping on this couch lazy, but efficient. Achieving more by doing less.
Barbara Turley: Oh well definitely following you for some great tips. Fantastic. Thank you so much for being on the show. I was really excited to get you on, because as I’ve said, I’ve been following you for a while. Just your success has been very inspiring. Very, very inspiring.
Jane Liu: Thank you so much.
Barbara Turley: Thank you, everyone for watching again for another week. Remember you can catch me later this week on my podcast, Wealth Unplugged, where I’ll be giving you my key tips that I’ve picked up from Jane today. Until next week. See you then.
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